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fl studio 12.3 upwards crash certain vsti crashes some but not all plugins

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FL Studio 12.3 and upward it makes FL Studio crash immediately. Said plugin when loaded as part of a song and if it is not set to be visible (to view the GUI of the plugin), it does not crash ...
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FL Studio will crash. I've tried everything suggested in the Forums and FAQs, it's nothing obvious to me, I don't think it's the wrapper settings, it's not tick lengths, it doesnt seem to matter if the cpu is high ...
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